Somtimes you gotta keep it Gully

#1
AKA: GIG's NBA Tuesday 2/8

What's up guys. Sorry I couldn't post yesterday. It allowed me to post my thread, but my ban was set so I couldn't see inside the Jail thread. So basically I had no idea what was going on in my post yesterday. This has been taken care of. Nailed a total that I thought was absolutely ridiculous, on to today.

I'm not good with keeping it PC. I'd love to back pedal on what I did, but I simply can't do it. It was regrettable, but sometimes you just gotta keep it 100. IBQ did nothing directly to provoke the situation, and I respect the ban. If I didn't get banned I would probably lose a little respect for the site, lol. The ban was absolutely in order. Basically what got me so angry was that IBQ's ban was lifted (when a lot of people thought it should be permanent) and he hit my threads on consecutive days with :popcorn: and :luck: .

It's cute and everything, and he has been allowed to get away with this type of shit his whole life on the internet, so I don't know why I expected it to change. I just need to understand the inner workings of the internet better, and understand that this kind of stuff will never change. It's tough for a guy like me to have to swallow that, but it's an evil that will never go away. I've had countless discussions with Slim and Teddy about how I can't stand forums and message boards. I actually had this exact discussion with John Scully a couple days ago. We were discussing how there is no accountability on message boards. The timing of everything was just pretty ironic.

In the end I turned into one of the guys I hate, and I lost my cool. I apologize for making a side show out of my boy's site. We have all been making mad money in the NBA section recently, and there's nothing like a Ron Artest type of explosion to really fuck with a team's chemistry. I can't fuck with IBQ on any type of level. Hopefully he can just stay out of my threads, and I will stay out of his. He can continue to just nail that awesome timely humor of his that only about 2% of people understand, and I will go back to posting winners.

Basically, I am not sorry for what I did, I am just sorry it took away from what this site is about. I'm not "licking my wounds", "clearing my head", "taking some time off", "collecting my thoughts". There was just a lot of shit bottled up that came spewing out. I am past it, and I'm sorry if it offended or disappointed anyone.

I'm sure this isn't what some of you wanted to hear. Internet tough guys annoy me. I happened to turn into one, but it was simply because I was sick of actions by someone that just go on day in and day out. I know how I handle myself in real life, and I just need to make that transition online. It just isn't the same, and I accept that now. I will now try to address some things that were asked of me in yesterday's thread.

Slim said:
I missed this train-wreck last night. Not often do I see you on totals, when you get a chance, can you let me know why this one stuck out to you so much? Thanks. When I saw this card, I thought immediately that you would be on Denver or Dallas.
:cheers1::luck::cheers1:
This total was mad ridiculous to me. Chicago doesn't play D outside of Chicago. Portland is incredibly efficient at home. I just saw both teams getting out and running. I would have taken that total at 210, lol. I just think Chicago in those type of spots commits to NOT playing D, and trying to steal wins with their athleticism. I anticipated Portland being up to the task and running with them. I had some good numbers lined up yesterday, but I couldn't see any of the posts, so I was unable to lay them out. I'm glad it came in.



Hooked Up said:
Hey buddy. Let me know if you need anything. Wooden rock hammer for chess pieces, smokes, anything...
My bid is almost done, but I appreciate the support. I actually had this all planned out like Gerard Butler in Law Abiding Citizen. I have really been sneaking out of my cell every chance I can get.

cenger66 said:
im guessing he was provoked. this seems like the classic case of one guy being a slight asshole for a long time and then another guy who is normally perfectly fine just exploding on him and getting in trouble. i usually like to back the guy who explodes because 9 times out of 10 they were reacting to someone else
This is pretty much spot on. I wasn't provoked directly at that moment in time, but it was more of a reaction to numerous things. Got the better of me. I'm human, what can I say.

ill_B_quiet said:
be nice if someone spoke up thats a mod and knows what happen so people would stop speculating

***cough*** TEDDY*cough***

:luck:
Still, even in me being put in jail, he has to throw the :luck: like a smart ass. Thanks for proving my point. It will never end. I hope JC and Teddy realize that.

Slim said:
Gully was out of control and took out his aggression on Ill_Be_Quiet. While many of you want to blame IBQ for this because you get along better with Gully, that is not only unfair, but inaccurate. It is easy to turn and blame the guy seen as "controversial" by some, but is not the case here. Both Gully and IBQ are very valued members here, and we are going to move forward by chalking this up as a bad night.
It's easy to say that, because I was flat out wrong for exploding, but I also think this approach is a cop out. Dude gets away with being a prick 99 percent of the time. There is a reason people get along with me more and not him, that can't be used a reason to not back me here. I was flat out wrong for the incident, and I understand that, but in no way does that clear him. This should be about me though, and not him, so yeah I feel you. I don't think he should get cleared or blamed here. It had nothing to do with him. I was banned for MY actions. What I did was wrong, but that doesn't clear anything else up. Period.

Kenziebella said:
sure Id like to know ... but ...

If I wanted drama I would be watching soap operas in the afternoon. I guess what I am saying is that for a bunch of tough gamblers (guys hanging around pool halls, gambling facilities - placing hard earn money on sporting events :rofl: ) we seem to like drama like a bunch of school girls. We cant seem to get out of our own way. Lets just talk sports ... come on already.[hr]
Kenziebella said:
sure Id like to know ... but ...

If I wanted drama I would be watching soap operas in the afternoon. I guess what I am saying is that for a bunch of tough gamblers (guys hanging around pool halls, gambling facilities - placing hard earn money on sporting events :rofl: ) we seem to like drama like a bunch of school girls. We cant seem to get out of our own way. Lets just talk sports ... come on already.
I had no idea who else was involved .. but I enjoy both of them very much .. they both add a ton to the forum .. now give me a fucking tissue
This is pretty much spot on. The drama around here is mad corny. It's an internet forum for christ sake. Basically, if you don't like someone stay out of their lane. Nothing can come from any problems here. I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY THAT I AM JUST AS MUCH AT FAULT, AND WHAT I DID WAS EXACTLY WHAT I PREACH AGAINST. That being said, I know how I conduct myself in real life. My hands have put in work, over-time. You simply don't come around us acting like that. Things get handled. I need to appreciate the fact that this site is designed for people to make money though, nothing more, nothing less. I just wish some other people would get a fucking clue.

wquine said:
GIG, how often do you go to Foxwoods or Mohegan?
Depends. I go down there primarily for fights. If they had a sportsbook down there I would go twice a week. I like cards and shit, but if I go to the casino it's either for the clubs or to just have some fun and lose some money.


Well, I hope everything is cleared up. I know some of my answers aren't what people would want to hear, but that's the best I have for you. Hopefully IBQ can just stay out of my lane, and I will stay out of his. I was wrong here, and I accept that. Tomorrow it will be back to business like normal, and everyone can put this behind them. On to today...

Spurs/Detroit over 190

:cheers1:
 

Slim

Senior Member
#3
This thread is disappointing to me. IBQ has been addressed and punished for his past mistakes, trying to justify your hate filled and homophobic rant by mentioning his past issues is far from keeping it "100." By constantly mentioning your hate for "corny drama" while posting a 1000 word diatribe to incite such drama is looked at by me as immature and corny in itself. Vague mentions to "putting in work" with your hands on the internet isnt very cool either. Whats the difference between the "internet tough-guys" you despise and the actions you have chosen to take this morning? I respect you as a handicapper, and would consider you one of the people I have enjoyed the most on here in the last 6 months since your return. However, I look at a post like this as simply another attempt to cover up an embarrassing night in which you could not handle your booze. Everyone else wants this to go away, as it is a black-eye on the board. You are not helping the process. Instead, you appear to be someone that is trying to keep his "computer cred" by making references to physical violence in the real world. I hope you reconsider your stance, because as I have said numerous times, you are a valued member of our board.
 
#4
Slim said:
This thread is disappointing to me. IBQ has been addressed and punished for his past mistakes, trying to justify your hate filled and homophobic rant by mentioning his past issues is far from keeping it "100." By constantly mentioning your hate for "corny drama" while posting a 1000 word diatribe to incite such drama is looked at by me as immature and corny in itself. Vague mentions to "putting in work" with your hands on the internet isnt very cool either. Whats the difference between the "internet tough-guys" you despise and the actions you have chosen to take this morning? I respect you as a handicapper, and would consider you one of the people I have enjoyed the most on here in the last 6 months since your return. However, I look at a post like this as simply another attempt to cover up an embarrassing night in which you could not handle your booze. Everyone else wants this to go away, as it is a black-eye on the board. You are not helping the process. Instead, you appear to be someone that is trying to keep his "computer cred" by making references to physical violence in the real world. I hope you reconsider your stance, because as I have said numerous times, you are a valued member of our board.
I don't have the heart or desire to argue with you here. What I did was regrettable, and I've made it clear. I refuse to let this be an avenue for IBQ to get a pass on anything. It has nothing to do with him. He shouldn't be defended or blamed for everything. As much as you don't want to hear me defend myself, I don't want to have to hear this garbage defending him.

It's real cute and sweet that a guy can get a pass for acting like an idiot 24/7. If that's how it is, then that's how it is. I don't need "computer cred". That is exactly what I wanted to try to avoid. I am simply trying to get through to people how difficult it is for someone like me to accept the fact that people can operate that way on a forum and nothing can be done about it. I acknowledged the fact that how things are handled in the real world compared to a message board are different. There is no accountability here.

My point was to try to let it be known that I fully understand that now. I am simply another name and avatar on here. People can act like absolute idiots 98% of the time, and that is just the reality of it. I will stick to just posting my plays, and not getting wrapped up in dialogue on here.
 

Jawnny Cash

Senior Member
#5
I don't think that anybody is another name or another avatar on here. I think on this website, more then anyone else, each poster has an identity. Maybe IBQ's internet persona is not one that some care for, but he was suspended for his previous actions, just like you are being now. A lot of people enjoy the humor that IBQ brings to the website, I know that Teddy is one of them. I think he has rubbed all of us the wrong way at one point or another, but that is just the way he is. People do not get banned around here for not having a certain kind of message board personality. I don't know.. It just seems like you are giving us ultimatums and I don't know why it has to come to this. I think Slim has done a good job being as rational as possible in his discussions regarding this topic.
 
#6
Jawnny Cash said:
I don't think that anybody is another name or another avatar on here. I think on this website, more then anyone else, each poster has an identity. Maybe IBQ's internet persona is not one that some care for, but he was suspended for his previous actions, just like you are being now. A lot of people enjoy the humor that IBQ brings to the website, I know that Teddy is one of them. I think he has rubbed all of us the wrong way at one point or another, but that is just the way he is. People do not get banned around here for not having a certain kind of message board personality. I don't know.. It just seems like you are giving us ultimatums and I don't know why it has to come to this. I think Slim has done a good job being as rational as possible in his discussions regarding this topic.
There's no ultimatums. It is what it is. I just found it humorous that he gets banned for spamming the website with clovers, and instigating people with the little popcorn shit, and as soon as he comes back he puts that in my threads repeatedly 3 or 4 days straight. Like nothing ever happened. I lashed out. That's where it begins and ends for me. There's nothing I can do about it. I don't want this going on any longer than it has to. I respect Slim and where he is coming from. I don't want my hatred for another person on here to affect any of my other relationships.[hr]
Adding:

Spurs -6.5
Bucks -7.5

Final Card:
Detroit/San Antonio over 190
Spurs -6.5
Bucks -7.5

Good luck tonight everyone.
:luck::luck::cheers1::luck::luck:
 

Slim

Senior Member
#7
Ok, lets just all move forward. I think we all see eye to eye on the things that we are going to. I am glad to see you playing the Bucks, I am going to be playing them as well tonight. I posted thoughts on all the games today, and here is what I had to say about the Bucks.

Toronto Raptors & Milwaukee Bucks: I've been wanting to be in front of this Milwaukee train for a couple weeks, but have gotten mixed results. Two nice covers at home, and then a complete implosion against the aforementioned Pistons in their last home outing. The thing is this. Skiles teams come on strong in the second half, he proved this for years in Chicago. The Bucks have a ton of talent, and now they have been moderately healthy for a week. With Jennings back in the flow, Milwaukee should fair much better in an game with the Raptors that is bound to be a little more uptempo. It normally takes about 3 or 4 games to get a rotation going, especially when you have not been healthy ALL year long. I think we see a much more spirited effort out of the Bucks tonight. The Raptors are on one of those shitty one game trips for them, coming across the border. With San Antonio tomorrow night, I could see the Raptors really getting beat up here. Lean to Milwaukee, will play.

Good luck!
 
#8
Slim said:
Ok, lets just all move forward. I think we all see eye to eye on the things that we are going to. I am glad to see you playing the Bucks, I am going to be playing them as well tonight. I posted thoughts on all the games today, and here is what I had to say about the Bucks.

Toronto Raptors & Milwaukee Bucks: I've been wanting to be in front of this Milwaukee train for a couple weeks, but have gotten mixed results. Two nice covers at home, and then a complete implosion against the aforementioned Pistons in their last home outing. The thing is this. Skiles teams come on strong in the second half, he proved this for years in Chicago. The Bucks have a ton of talent, and now they have been moderately healthy for a week. With Jennings back in the flow, Milwaukee should fair much better in an game with the Raptors that is bound to be a little more uptempo. It normally takes about 3 or 4 games to get a rotation going, especially when you have not been healthy ALL year long. I think we see a much more spirited effort out of the Bucks tonight. The Raptors are on one of those shitty one game trips for them, coming across the border. With San Antonio tomorrow night, I could see the Raptors really getting beat up here. Lean to Milwaukee, will play.

Good luck!
Yeah, I agree pretty heavily with your points. I think after I get home from my meetings with AA, Dr. Buddy Rydell, and GLADD that I will be placing a pretty heavy wager on the Bucks tonight.

This, for me, is another one of those examples of people having a really short memory. Last year (or shit, even at the beginning of this year) if the Bucks were favored at home against the Raptors by anything less than 10 then it would have been a huge public play. This is a great spot to get your money in on the better talent. Milwaukee will be really tough at home against a reeling Toronto team. I'm not sure Toronto will have the heart to play the tough gritty type of game that Milwaukee can bring.

Glad we are on the same side.[hr]
Anybody seeing the Spurs at their books?

San Antonio has been taken off the board at all the sites I go to.... ?
 
#9
Adding:

Miami -10

I really liked this game initially, and then I read some of the input over in the NBA section. Seems like one of the more solid plays tonight. San Antonio is still off all the boards for me, so I'm still waiting to put that one in. Hopefully the line doesn't re-open too far off from what I had initially intended on playing.

I really like Miami though. Slim, Hooked Up, and Blake58 all have pretty good analysis behind it if you are looking for some good material. Miami -10.
 
#12
Thanks guys. That game is going over. I will be really surprised if it doesn't. Hopefully the lines get put back up before class tonight.

P.S. Jail sucks.

I can't give :luck: to Gary. I can't joke about random obscure ghetto Kung-Fu movies with IDareYou. I can't congratulate people in the NBA forum for having great insight on tonight's games. Jail sucks. Not to mention, the company in here is appalling. JoshKnows and takethebooki?? Really? This is what I have succumbed to??

I always thought, "what could be so bad about Jail? You still get to post here...". But this shit sucks.
 
#13
Crazy fun things going on up there Gull. I will send you screen shots of our deep analysis of Shutter Island and relay any messages you want on Kenzies ill fated attempt to find out who to tail for March Madness. Oh...there is a can't miss "Ask Moneymaker anything" thread that everyone seemed to have missed. And I picture of a giant cock in the lounge.... but you probably don't need to see another one of those here in jail.
Get out soon bud...good luck.
 
#14
i stopped reading this like 6 posts in, but just think its hillarious that me posting :luck: is a reason people got or get so upset :rofl:

water under teh bridge to me, i wont tough talk you with :luck:'s any more, i promise, please keep posting people enjoy your winners, dont let me stand in the way.
 
#16
seriously man, what fuels the fire is a person like you who is offended by everything i say...it never gives me a chance to do any good, or make peace with anyone...i would like to apologize for what ever it is i did to you in the past, but please LET IT GOOOOO!

again, golly i will stay clear of you and not poke you, as honest as i can be, no sarcasim you are valued here and like i said before, it would be a major loss if you stopped posting. water under teh bridge, look foward to your plays and insight back in general population.
:handshake:
 
#17
Hey buddy. Checking in. Spurs total at 103 at half... Stay strong.[hr]
Not looking good at all gig. They need 43 w 10 mins left. 3 Q was a brick factory. Stay strong
 
#18
ill_B_quiet said:
seriously man, what fuels the fire is a person like you who is offended by everything i say...it never gives me a chance to do any good, or make peace with anyone...i would like to apologize for what ever it is i did to you in the past, but please LET IT GOOOOO!

again, golly i will stay clear of you and not poke you, as honest as i can be, no sarcasim you are valued here and like i said before, it would be a major loss if you stopped posting. water under teh bridge, look foward to your plays and insight back in general population.
:handshake:
homie ur all good in my book honestly I have no probs with you at all, Ive been trying to show that my giving ya props in your threads, and congratulating you on good plays, But I also have watched you over the years, Ive watched how numerous people have had problems with you, when it comes to me personally I can handle it, but some people cant and I just dont like to see that, its sorta like when Slim took a stance when SPD was let back in. But its all good sixer I know your trying to change and I support your efforts. Lets start fresh and keep it real.....
 
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