Dialogue with Slim

Slim

Senior Member
#1
Until the matters of the board that I deem to be bullshit are resolved, I will be holding court here in The Jail. Do I like being here? No, but I must in order to hold the moral code that I feel is needed. I feel this is the only place that I can speak freely (obviously with no threats or racism as the rules state) without having posts edited or deleted. Upon further self reflection, I understand that some of the posts I made today are not in line with the company policy that John and Ted have set forth. I completly respect their forum and I have figured that posting in here is the best place to utilize this wonderful forum while still grand-standing on top of my soapbox. Individual names will not be posted, but instead will be referenced in a way that all with know who I am discussing. I want to thank the moderators for this level of freedom and I look forward to contributing to the board in the best ways that I know how.
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#3
Slim said:
Until the matters of the board that I deem to be bullshit are resolved, I will be holding court here in The Jail. Do I like being here? No, but I must in order to hold the moral code that I feel is needed. I feel this is the only place that I can speak freely (obviously with no threats or racism as the rules state) without having posts edited or deleted. Upon further self reflection, I understand that some of the posts I made today are not in line with the company policy that John and Ted have set forth. I completly respect their forum and I have figured that posting in here is the best place to utilize this wonderful forum while still grand-standing on top of my soapbox. Individual names will not be posted, but instead will be referenced in a way that all with know who I am discussing. I want to thank the moderators for this level of freedom and I look forward to contributing to the board in the best ways that I know how.
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miss ya homie!!!!!! But I understand.
 

Slim

Senior Member
#4
Lesson One:

How to fool people around a message board.

There are numerous ways to fool people around a message board into thinking you are a better capper than you really are. Over the last 6 months, I have seen all of them exhibited over the internet, and I would like to help you understand how to avoid this being done to you. The name of the game is to deceive your followers.

Chase posting: This poster likes to make a big play in order to boost their unit amounts. Some players like to keep only their records (we will get to this in the next post of how to deceive), but the true scam artists are the ones that live off of their units. Why? Because units = $$$. If you are really looking to get followers, especially ones that you eventually want to pay you, you get to them by showing them money.

What better way than telling someone, "I am up 52 units." Joe-Shit-The-Rag-Man loves this. Why wouldnt he? He sits there in his little home office and does the math on his calculator. It doesnt take much more than two seconds to multiply 52*10. Thats $520. Well, NOT EXACTLY. What happens when this guy normally makes only 1 or 2 unit plays? Lots of people on a gambling board dont have access to bet "30 units" at a time.

For instance, lets say that there is a poster named "SOB." He chose to make a big play to make a big splash and posted a play for 10 units. This wouldnt be a big deal if he normally posted 5 unit plays. That is only twice the size of a normal play, but %x more than 2 units. However, if the plays are normally one or two units, this is where the scam begins. Lets say this play lost, hypothetically of course. "SOB" would now come back and post another 10 unit play in order to chase those losses. If his followers (who on average bet 5 to 7% of their bankroll on his normal plays wanted to follow, they would now have over 50% of their bankroll involved on two plays. What happens if that play losses? Well, we move up to 20 units. This leaves the follower taking money out of his childs accounts. ON THREE PLAYS! When the win finally happens, the poster goes back to one and two unit plays in order to give the perception that their record is actually better than it is.

If someone new comes to the board and sees a record of 8-7-2 with +18 units, they are going to make several assumptions. First, they are going to look at the average play this person makes. When they see this is normally around 1 or 2, they think "wow, this guy must nail his big plays" which feeds directly into degenerates. It gives you two options. First, I will take a chance on following this guy, because he makes lots of money, OR he hits his big plays. The ironic part is, this guy is probably around 50% on his big plays, he just kept upping his "units." This is a very dangerous thing to have around a board, and often results in posters losing money.

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#7
I only post my record and not units because I only make about 5-8 *5 unit plays a year so I am interested in hearing Lesson #2 .. I am a 3 unit bettor and 5 is my biggest play. Occasionally I've bet larger then a *5 but I would not feel comfortable asking somebody who follows me to risk that kind of $$

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Slim

Senior Member
#8
You fall into the "credible follow" class. Someone whose "large" plays are less than triple the amount of units of a normal play does not need to post their unit amounts. People understand the scale at which you post, so there is no surprise. People who post only their records should not have more than 10 "large plays" in a season. That is where it can get tricky.

Trust me, there are a lot of credible ways to post on a site. Guys like IDAREYOU and TJ dont even bother posting their records, but they have the credibility over time. Im sure you could pull this off as well.

For the most part, I believe this site does a GREAT job in monitoring their posters, but there are certain ways to deceive the common observer and the next couple days I will try and point that out. I think this could eventually be a valuable tool for newbies to read before they get into the whole message board world.
 

cenger66

Senior Member
#9
:thumbsup:this might be comical to some of you. I was looking around at sbr today, first time ive been there, and i see a lot of posts about the aforementioned ''SOB'' being a tout and how they all hate him and are glad he got booted and all that jazz, but the best part was after he got booted he made a new username. ''jessica'' and pretended to be a girl. Everyone believed him except one guy who kept ripping on him. So it seems
the aforementioned ''SOB'' who in no way is meant to represent anyone at this forum is disliked beyond the scope of this jail. I feel like when 80% of the world doesnt like you, theres a reason for it.
 

Smitty

Senior Member
#17
1) Love when people post plays but no lines, then if they get beat by the ol .5 they can count it as a win. drives me nuts.

2) Only way to be credible imo is to post a record accurately, even if you are having a bad year why would someone want others following their plays if they haven't been killing it? People hit hot streaks then all of a sudden the records pop up, then once they drop off the records come down. Come on now. I think it should be mandatory. Either a win/loss record or units won/lost as long as your not pulling the ol SPD 10 unit bombs every 3rd day. I prefer posting units if your just posting one bc you should get credit if you hit a 5 unit every now and then when 2 or 3 units are your normal plays. I dont add juice bc im lazy but anyone can add 10% onto the loss category.

Im done. :cool:[hr]
let me add to that. I would love to trust everyone on this site but you just have no clue who the person is sitting behind the keyboard and we are talking about peoples money. Lots of people do tail plays on this site and that is the only reason I give 2 shits about the records. Nuff said
 
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